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Post by Icarus on Oct 12, 2021 20:30:48 GMT -8
The Fairest blinked as Gavin turned the attention back on him. He had managed to light a roach in the downtime, dragging a letter opener apparently sharp enough to cut across the tip of his finger to flick a drop of blood into one of the candles. The smoke coiled into a tiny sylph, looking around the room before holding out her hands for the small roll of paper that Icarus hands her, before she drifts to deliver it elsewhere. "Hm? I wouldn't dream of implying the Knighthood is seeking a deeper understanding of Ward functionality before time takes our sovereign," he exhaled the pungent cloud of cannabis. "That's bordering on sedition, Gavin."
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Post by Gavin Graves on Oct 12, 2021 21:29:01 GMT -8
Gavin felt the hair on the back of his neck stand on end. Instincts led him to consider his life might be on the line in this room. The Knight of Dying Light had just implied a very reasonable conspiracy might be in play and the way he had worded it left Gavin worried he was with another member of the conspiracy. Succession planning was important. Continuity of the knowledge necessary to maintain the wards might be critical to the future of the Freehold.
"Hmm. Wasn't meaning to imply that, but that is a concerning thought," Gavin deflected attempting to stonewall he had considered Icarus might himself be involved after the Knight dropped that line, casually punctuated by smoking up the office.
He mentally ran through the minimum steps required to paste and send his message to Scorpio. It was out of date with the current conversation, but it would be enough to let her know something was wrong. He was trying not to show a fleeting moment of panic and remain in control.
He had stood stock still for only a moment, but to him it felt like minutes as his thoughts raced. Summoning his wits he commanded his body to breathe. The pungent weed hit his nostrils and permitted him a distraction from the tension he was feeling.
"I was asking if there was a possible connection between The Valley Incident and what Grendel was suggesting with Dame Chunhua. I was still his checking story here without dropping too many details myself."
It then dawned on him that there may be more than one Knight operating separately toward the same goal. If the King were to succumb to age as even Gavin had considered upon first meeting him, the knowledge could be lost. That was not the only thing that would happen in that event. Someone would have to become the new monarch. Maybe there would be multiple nobles vying for the role. There could be competition brewing.
Recalling back to the conversation with Chunhua, he remembered her focus on his motives to help protect the community. What he had displayed there, she had consequently shared a meaningful secret with a short clock on it. Was that a test or perhaps a manipulation?
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Post by Icarus on Oct 13, 2021 12:14:49 GMT -8
Grendel idly picked at things on Icarus' desk as his requirement to speak was no longer necessary. The occasional feral rumble emanated from his chest, on a frequency hard to detect with the human ear. The Knight of the Dying Light seemed impassive, eyebrow only drifting slightly upwards as Gavin's nervous nature radiated from the Beast.
"The Valley Incident involved one of my own vassals, but we know that," he chuckled.
Getting gutted and blinded for a moon cycle was hard to forget.
"The Gravewight was Dame She-Wolf's. Seems like Dame Scorpio and Dame Chunhua's people have better sense for these sorts of questions. But if we're talking about angry spirits... from my understanding it's been suggested the Leviathan Motley was hired by the Ashen Notary to locate a rogue Winter Courtier, and they got a little overzealous with when someone got access to knowledge hidden within our collective history to bastardize it enough into the ritual that created the revenants."
He took a drag, blinking to himself, "You know, it would be pretty fucking impressive if not for the horrific toll on everyone's lives. Anyway- the Valley Incident seemed to be about summoning ghosts, didn't it?"
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Post by Gavin Graves on Oct 13, 2021 14:42:58 GMT -8
It was clear to Icarus that Gavin was nervous about a grand conspiracy. When political details were mentioned he had caught the Beast pouring over his every facial expression looking for some betrayal of intent. Gavin's manic instincts were reasonably contained given the scenario, but the attentive Incubus noticed him pacing out the space around him and eying they doors.
"Right, that's why I suggested you might have an inside edge on the issue. Your vassal was apparently unwittingly close to that operation. He might know more than he thinks he does."
Gavin considered Bonnie's wife as another possible angle on the research materials, but that seemed cold to him. Better to go through Rowan, he thought.
The punishment thrown at Icarus for Rowan's involvement relative to apparently nothing for Dame She Wolf indicates either a much higher level of expectation not being met on his part or some kind of grudge. Was he the rebellious Heir Apparent that doesn't want the job? Was he trying to ensure he got it despite the will of Samedi?
"Yeah, ghost summoning seemed to be the center of it, but since that public spectacle was made an overt matter of record, I went over it a few times. A detail or two stuck out to me. Our sovereign expressly said they were messing with ghosts and the wards. The Revenant Crisis also appeared to be a result of ghosts and probing the wards--which you are now saying was a bastardized rite. That confirms something I was hoping was possible."
He questioned the wisdom of them talking as openly as they had been in front of Grendel. Gavin had been vague, but the Knight had been explicit. Vague was pointing the conversation away from where he wanted to go.
"A rogue Winter courtier had the initial secrets, then Leviathan got involved and whatever innovation happened led to the Revenant Crisis. The Winter monarch ordered the punishment of Bonnie after the Valley incident. Ours mentioned the knowledge sought by our fellow courtiers was not forbidden to us. Your squire even indicated focused research on Winter courtiers in the trial as well. It stands to reason these are probably Winter secrets being kept, not our own. Getting caught and making a mess were the actual crimes being punished."
The shape of things was coming into focus even for the crude Beast. It was time for him to take a position on the board.
"I suppose I should be clear of intent here. I've learned enough to know Spring messed up a major rite recently and the burden is going to land on us or Winter to keep the wards from spiraling. If Spring is not going to do its part, a reworking may need to happen in order to fix things so it is palatable enough for them to take up their part again." Gavin knew that there was more to the problem than that, but his declaration was still in the direction of his preferred outcome. He needed pieces to work with. Politics be damned.
"Did knowledge dug up by either incident survive? The survivor of both incidents seems to be laying a lot lower these days."
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Post by Icarus on Oct 13, 2021 15:39:19 GMT -8
The Incubus actually leaned back a bit. A Razorhand examining your every twitch with the hair-trigger instinct of a Beast was nothing to scoff at.
He didn't seem invested in hiding the fact that he was being coy, either, but rather uninterested in burdening the other Autumn with chatting high politics. Or, again, maybe that was the convenient excuse everyone was telling themselves to ignore the fact that Icarus was adept at hermitting himself. Maybe Samedi's heavy hand had done the trick to beat down whatever Emerald spark for hope and change had been brewing with the Knight to apply his honed talents beyond executions and getting stoned in his mansion.
Dying light indeed.
"I think my vassal is making a smart choice, given the climate and the mistakes that came from inexperience. He's not stupid, but definitely needing some time to develop his Seasonal dogma." Icarus' head ticked as hollow, glowing eyes swept over Gavin's own eager pressing. "Gavin, I'm not confirming anything. You're overanalyzing my word choice," he explained, trying to get the other to pump the breaks a bit. "I'm not buying that Echidna knew how to pull the dead and plant them in animal corpses without a mentor. Whether that mentor exists as a person or a buried, ancient memory we'll never know, because to proponents of that information are gone. Whether Echidna gaining that information was planned from the inside, or a mistaken oversight is also gone."
A sigh hitched in his throat, his own anxiety getting the better of him as he smoothed his hand from temple to horn. "Um- no, the crime really was getting a bunch of people killed, Gavin. Kids, actually—the entity that crushed Linden was radiating the sort of stuff that makes adult bodies sick and the already vulnerable sicker. I think the Pantheon made it pretty clear that trying to manipulate the dead of Vegas remains to be a poor choice for novice necromancers." Icarus' hands actually trembled a bit before he hid the gesture by cracking his knuckles.
"Okay. Helping...yes... The- you and Scorpio can ask Lord Samedi about tipping the scales and heal Spring. I don't know if the Archivist- sorry, the Spring ritual master- will be able to pierce Lamassu's old loopholes, or if he would even find it palatable to defy his Queen's will." The Fairest took a moment to breathe, drumming his hands along the edge of the desk as the weight of responsibility shook his anchors. "I'd be quite happy to see the Verdant Crown having its healing restored as well, so if you- If He offers something tangible I'm happy to lend assistance to your liege."
He seemed very invested in putting as much distance as he could between himself and the Autumn King, but the Wyrd was a torrent through the Fairest, and watching the opportunity slip by to assist the Season that was so fond of him would only serve to drive him mad.
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Post by Gavin Graves on Oct 13, 2021 17:00:07 GMT -8
The Courser nodded along with the Knight's assessment. Of course he was being circumspect about the whole thing. It was a tangled nightmare of unpleasant possibilities. He was also far more experienced in managing political issues such as this. Gavin was wet behind the ears by comparison and it almost certainly showed in this encounter.
"I understand what the fallout was and the moral consequences there." The Beast almost blushed with embarrassment, but a well timed breath had contained the redness to the tips of his ears. "I know what I am and how that has shaped my perspective. Human life is not something I casually disregard though. Even the scum human-traffickers that hounded me for weeks got to live another night. My point was neither of the monarchs made any mention of those losses at the trial. I was paying attention to what was said and what was not. Who was punished and who was not, and the reasons given. That whole trial was an object lesson for many more than just those directly involved--I know you're aware." A glimmer of sympathy for the violence inflicted on Icarus lingered.
"I appreciate that you see the breadth of the damage done. I just didn't see the same concern from the Monarchs. It didn't show in their apparent reasoning. Without that, in my view, their reasoning took roost in a less compassionate locale."
Gavin noted the mention of Pantheon--perhaps a reference to the collective Monarchy?--and the Archivist. Those would be things for him to look into later.
"The Archivist. Hmm, not familiar with the title. I was hoping a reworking might possibly fit within the Queen's declaration, not be another act of defiance of her will. Clearly I'm not well versed in the nuanced limitations of these rarified matters, but a man can dream of good things nonetheless. I'll nudge my liege to check her interest in such a thing. If not, it'll have to remain a personal project."
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Post by Krakenbox on Oct 19, 2021 15:09:01 GMT -8
Icarus nodded appreciatively, not looking to make the Beast feel shamed or chided.
"The Monarchs..." he frowned slightly, "See things differently. They care, but from a different angle and approach. The world is a different place the longer you walk the path to Faerie...compassion, I think, has a different definition when you see moments in time like a sentence in a bigger story."
Hands changed from tapping to needlessly fixing the paperwork on his desk as Gavin talked about finding a proper fix of Life for Life within the demands of Spring. "I'd like that as well. Most do, thankfully, though it's hard to see sometimes unless you talk to people. We have a lot of privileges that come from the Monarchs forging their bargains, but I can't fully conceive what those deals entail, or every Freehold would run like this, wouldn't they?"
Grendel had made himself familiar with the couch in the corner, lounging on something soft after the Market and living on the edge. His key to freedom was within his grasp, and he wasn't really interested in analyzing checks and balances unless he was being tapped to prove his worth again. The fact that his Mantle was as powerful as it was caused Icarus to cringe internally. The meeting with Baron Samedi would be interesting to say the least.
"Gavin. If Grendel is accepted into this Freehold's Autumn Court, I will be contacting Scorpio to extend my power of execution through office, which will ultimately land to you. Afterparty isn't off the hook for responsibility either. I will be speaking with Archie Hartman about the nuances required to integrate someone properly, and given the delicate nature of this situation, will be expecting everyone involved to handle this with the proper attention and care that will produce success."
The Ogre tilted his head to regard Gavin again for a moment, threat assessing, before snorting quietly to himself.
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Post by Gavin Graves on Oct 19, 2021 16:35:39 GMT -8
The description Icarus placed on the perspectives of the elder monarchs struck Gavin as alien. It captured the distance an author might have with characters that weren't important to the story being told. The problem was Gavin didn't see things remotely similarly. He still connected with the feelings of even his enemies. He looked nonplused at the new insight, but nodded his understanding.
"Yeah, I can talk to some people. I'll meander my way through. Wouldn't mind getting a text somewhere down the line with further suggestions of where to look." He signaled that he picked up the clues already hinted at and was eager to progress.
As the discussion turned from a developing rapport about related interests back toward the obvious business at hand, Gavin felt the grip of politics moving to take seat in his life. "Execution," he repeated flatly and slowly loosed the remainder of that breath, absorbing its meaning.
Gavin turned to meet the look from Grendel and began reorienting the dynamic they were going to have. Recalling the immense form the Ogre had when he'd first encountered the buzzard, he tried to overlay the thought of that threat back into the room. Grendel's mask had neatly wrapped all the immediate cues he would otherwise have displayed out of view.
"Well, I'm not all too eager to be held to such a large responsibility. The very idea returns intrusive visions and memories." He hung a pause on a raised finger to indicate he had a further thought on the matter, but wanted the first point to land correctly.
"I quite expressly declined the role of Ghul, and to a degree distanced myself from your office for a good reason. I'm sure you can imagine." The Beast did not want to have to regularly be called upon to slaughter on command or patrol some inhospitable locale killing all comers.
He set up the conversation for his ask in the matter, "If I'm to take on such a task, even as limited in scope as this, I want to minimize the likelihood of having to fulfill it."
"He doesn't seem concerned enough while he knows he can be two to three times my size. I need those scales to be balanced a little better. Force some extra consideration before he thinks of making a problem of himself."
"I require an Ogre's knack with Metamorphosis for my part in it. That should even things out a bit." Gavin made a point of nervously holding Grendel's gaze. Icarus had pulled the compassion rug out from under him earlier in the conversation and Gavin needed to have the Ogre take him seriously. Grendel would learn what the other Freeholders knew of Gavin's capabilities soon enough due to the show he'd put on at Lughnasadh. Until then he was still a relative unknown who might be too soft to do the job.
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Post by Krakenbox on Oct 20, 2021 13:01:14 GMT -8
"I'm not hard to find," Icarus admitted, giving Gavin permission in a roundabout way to poke him if necessary. As the Beast offered a rundown of why he had avoided the Incubus in the first place, he blinked with some confusion, "Oh. Well, I suppose my reputation of being Fall's Hufflepuff vassalage would deem that a few Ghūls found their way to me." Rowan wasn't the first awkward and disenfranchised Lost to be attracted to an absent authority.
"I'm not asking you to do this against your will. I think you're one of the few members of the court that can easily handle Grendel's...unique skillset," he cocked an eyebrow at his new Wyrd-charmed companion. "And ultimately, you're the one who found it fit to present him, and I can anticipate anyone else I ask will reject the responsibility."
Grendel's laughter bubbled from the couch at Gavin's request, gesturing for the Beast to approach. He didn't continue until he did.
"It's fair enough to ask, but," the jagged teeth looked chipped under the mask, as red rimmed eyes glanced over the Razorhand, "Must ask why you'd wanna grow those, given your caution. S'not a very practical talent. Also, mister Graves, giving away one of my 'unique' abilities to the walking cheese slicer doesn't mean I'd have much to offer the Freehold, eh?" He chuckled again, and the Beast got the sense that the feral Ogre was flexing his practical perspective of hierarchy over rubbing his nose in shit. In fact, it was probably the closest he was going to get to a compliment that the Ogre was complaining that Gavin would simply outclass him.
"If you don't want to be Fall's attack dog, why are you leaning into it?" He sniffed, "I know lots of secrets. Ones that have almost gotten me killed. Tell me what you actually want that'll stop you from being scared."
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Post by Gavin Graves on Oct 20, 2021 16:53:33 GMT -8
He nodded loosely toward Icarus. The Knight had framed the negotiating position Gavin had with the Ogre favourably. It roughly translated to 'work with Gavin or there aren't any options.'
Gavin smirked at Grendel's comparison. Few had felt comfortable enough with the threat he presented to toy with it.
"Survival options are always useful, especially those that inspire fear." He dismissed the concern about perceived worries and positioning with a joke of his own. "There's no way the only thing of worth you have to the Freehold is the size of your ... wings."
He was willing to entertain other consideration in any case. He didn't need to step on a defining feature of the man, but it was still on the table.
"We've already covered what I really want earlier in this conversation. I want to fix Spring's rites. For that I'd need to improve my knowledge and learn the workings of Seasonal rites and their development. Didn't hear any sign that knowledge persisted with either of you tonight, so far, just that it was within reach previously." Gavin was not interested in expressing why he wanted to restore the bounty of the Emerald Court, secretly fearing he could be manipulated or framed for someone else's antics with that knowledge.
"If I can't inspire Autumn's awe by helping bring healing back to the Freehold, the thought was to do it in other more direct ways until a new opportunity presented itself."
He stared off at a curio in the office thoughtfully considering what else the Ogre might have learned watching the Faerie creatures of the Market. Grendel wasn't altogether forthcoming about what he might know so it was imperative to go back to basics to maybe get something of value and interest from the arrangement.
"What about banes and taboos then? Surely you've observed plenty of creatures further down the path to Faerie getting leveraged by the strangest of things." The logic flowed from what he knew of the man and his access. He watched things. He survived.
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Post by Krakenbox on Oct 20, 2021 17:46:16 GMT -8
Grendel scratched his chin, "Yeah. I can teach you how to sort legends and beliefs. It's all about what people think is right, when you're biting down on a weakness that comes from nothing."
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Post by Gavin Graves on Oct 20, 2021 18:58:37 GMT -8
"Alright. Works for me." Gavin wondered what other secrets might be bouncing around in the brain of the gruff bird. Perhaps time would tell. He would be spending plenty of it with the man after all.
The night wasn't even over yet. There was still the King to approach.
Turning to Icarus, "I think there's a reasonable enough foundation there for me to take on a task I hope never comes due. It wasn't pleasant any of the other times I've had to, but you can rely on me." The statement was to iterate it would not be his first time killing another Changeling, mostly intended for Grendel's benefit. He lied about how he felt about it. He had enjoyed it in the past. That was what truly scared him.
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